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	<description>for people who love Gatineau Park</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Shilly Shally Called Shilly Shally? by Gatineau Park Ski Challenge: P10-Fortune: What goes up, must come down. &#171; Momma &#38; Max</title>
		<link>http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/418/why-is-shilly-shally-called-shilly-shally/comment-page-1/#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>Gatineau Park Ski Challenge: P10-Fortune: What goes up, must come down. &#171; Momma &#38; Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Overview: P10 is a popular little place to ski from (I guess that long, long, long hill isn&#8217;t so intimidating after all).  The parking lot can be quite busy, and I&#8217;m sorry to everyone who showed up around 10AM this morning, but I actually stole that last spot.  I victoriously snagged it, right before a convoy of about 5 cars pulled in.  Luckily though, you can hit up the trails from P10 fairly easily by just parking a little further away at P9 -Dunlop.   P10 is another one of those great places to ski from.  Once that hill is tackled, you have some great cabins at varying distances (Keogan, Huron, Western, Shilly Sally &#8211; does anyone out there know the origins of the name &#8220;Shilly Sally?&#8221;)(Charles Hodgson @ Guide Gatineau came to my rescue on this question. Here is the answer as to why Shilly Shally is called Shilly Shally: http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/418/why-is-shilly-shally-called-shilly-shally/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Overview: P10 is a popular little place to ski from (I guess that long, long, long hill isn&#8217;t so intimidating after all).  The parking lot can be quite busy, and I&#8217;m sorry to everyone who showed up around 10AM this morning, but I actually stole that last spot.  I victoriously snagged it, right before a convoy of about 5 cars pulled in.  Luckily though, you can hit up the trails from P10 fairly easily by just parking a little further away at P9 -Dunlop.   P10 is another one of those great places to ski from.  Once that hill is tackled, you have some great cabins at varying distances (Keogan, Huron, Western, Shilly Sally &#8211; does anyone out there know the origins of the name &#8220;Shilly Sally?&#8221;)(Charles Hodgson @ Guide Gatineau came to my rescue on this question. Here is the answer as to why Shilly Shally is called Shilly Shally: http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/418/why-is-shilly-shally-called-shilly-shally/ [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Baby in a Backpack by Gatineau Park Ski Challenge: P10-Fortune: What goes up, must come down. &#171; Momma &#38; Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gatineau Park Ski Challenge: P10-Fortune: What goes up, must come down. &#171; Momma &#38; Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Loppet&#8221;, maybe it just sounds a little more exotic. Check out Charles Hodgson&#8217;s Guide Gatineau for his explanation on  the origins of the rather bizarre, but very Canadian name [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Loppet&#8221;, maybe it just sounds a little more exotic. Check out Charles Hodgson&#8217;s Guide Gatineau for his explanation on  the origins of the rather bizarre, but very Canadian name [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tortoise Nicole out of P6 by Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love image of the tortoise on skis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love image of the tortoise on skis!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Baby in a Backpack by Nicole</title>
		<link>http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/2001/baby-in-a-backpack/comment-page-1/#comment-3509</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post, and I&#039;m so happy to hear that my blog reminded your past adventures with your wee ones.   How old would have Danielle been in that photo? Its a great one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post, and I&#8217;m so happy to hear that my blog reminded your past adventures with your wee ones.   How old would have Danielle been in that photo? Its a great one!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snowshoe Damage Complaints by Pierre</title>
		<link>http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1984/snowshoe-damage-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-3504</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what i see if you dont have skis in your feet,get out of the park except
from 2 or 3 trails for pedestrians which by the way skiers are always present on.
It doesnt suprise me  that people get angry about this and im one of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what i see if you dont have skis in your feet,get out of the park except<br />
from 2 or 3 trails for pedestrians which by the way skiers are always present on.<br />
It doesnt suprise me  that people get angry about this and im one of them</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Climate Change Means to the Ski &amp; Snowshoe Season by Will Declining Ottawa Precipitation Spell the End of XC and Snowshoeing? &#124; OutdoorOttawa</title>
		<link>http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1993/what-climate-change-means-to-the-ski-snowshoe-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3461</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Declining Ottawa Precipitation Spell the End of XC and Snowshoeing? &#124; OutdoorOttawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scary stuff indeed. Read Charles’ full post over at GuideGatineau. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scary stuff indeed. Read Charles’ full post over at GuideGatineau. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Climate Change Means to the Ski &amp; Snowshoe Season by gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... looking at it by calendar year will give slightly different results when trying to calculate how much snow fell in the winter. Splitting at the winter solstice and spring equinox basically splitting it on the seasonal boundaries, which causes a bunch of snow in the weeks before the third week of December to not be counted in what most people think of when they think of the winter snow season (as opposed to the winter season).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; looking at it by calendar year will give slightly different results when trying to calculate how much snow fell in the winter. Splitting at the winter solstice and spring equinox basically splitting it on the seasonal boundaries, which causes a bunch of snow in the weeks before the third week of December to not be counted in what most people think of when they think of the winter snow season (as opposed to the winter season).</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Climate Change Means to the Ski &amp; Snowshoe Season by Charles Hodgson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Hodgson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut and pasted as EC presented it, which was by calendar year. So yes, each winter was split in two. The City of Ottawa analysis splits at winter solstice and spring equinox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut and pasted as EC presented it, which was by calendar year. So yes, each winter was split in two. The City of Ottawa analysis splits at winter solstice and spring equinox.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Climate Change Means to the Ski &amp; Snowshoe Season by gordon</title>
		<link>http://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1993/what-climate-change-means-to-the-ski-snowshoe-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3453</link>
		<dc:creator>gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... it looks like there&#039;s a number of data sets for different stations in Ottawa. I&#039;m going to have to dig into it a bit further, because I may have used a different one from the set you&#039;ve analysed. One question: Did you break the data on the calendar year or on July 1st so that you can deal with the winters.

But, you&#039;re right: lies, damn lies, and statistics. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; it looks like there&#8217;s a number of data sets for different stations in Ottawa. I&#8217;m going to have to dig into it a bit further, because I may have used a different one from the set you&#8217;ve analysed. One question: Did you break the data on the calendar year or on July 1st so that you can deal with the winters.</p>
<p>But, you&#8217;re right: lies, damn lies, and statistics. <img src='http://guidegatineau.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on What Climate Change Means to the Ski &amp; Snowshoe Season by Charles Hodgson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Hodgson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://guidegatineau.ca/files/2012/01/As-Advised.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-2000&quot; title=&quot;As-Advised&quot; src=&quot;http://guidegatineau.ca/files/2012/01/As-Advised-150x150.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;150&quot; height=&quot;150&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Gordon Dewis peered at snowfall statistics for a while and &lt;a href=&quot;http://gordon.dewis.ca/2012/01/26/are-ottawas-winters-less-snowy-it-depends-on-how-you-look-at-it/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted on his blog&lt;/a&gt; that it looked to him like snow depths had not been decreasing over the past century.

I scratched my head and asked Environment Canada directly. This is what they said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hello Charles,

Thank you for sending your message to Environment Canada. The information you&#039;re looking for, whether there is more snow now than in the past, is not something that has already been calculated. However, you can easily check this yourself for the period 1920 to 2006. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/monthlydata_e.html?timeframe=3&amp;Prov=ONT&amp;StationID=4333&amp;mlyRange=1889-01-01&#124;2006-12-01&amp;Year=1920&amp;Month=01&amp;Day=01&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the link&lt;/a&gt; to the 1920 data for Ottawa CDA.

Once on that page, look at the bottom of the &quot;Total snow&quot; column to see how much snow fell that year.  Then, click on &quot;Next year&quot; above or below the table to access the data for 1921 and so on.  It will take some work, but all the numbers are there for you to make a comparison.  If you feel ambitious, the data even goes back to 1890.

Yours truly,
Bernard Duguay
Meteorological Inquiry Specialist
MSC National Inquiry Response Team ISO 9001:2008 Environment Canada&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So I did. And what do I see?

Click on the graph above to enlarge it. I know the old saying that there are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics. But it still looks to me like we&#039;re getting less snow than in days of old.

But those early &#039;70s sure look like great skiing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://guidegatineau.ca/files/2012/01/As-Advised.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-2000" title="As-Advised" src="http://guidegatineau.ca/files/2012/01/As-Advised-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>Gordon Dewis peered at snowfall statistics for a while and <a href="http://gordon.dewis.ca/2012/01/26/are-ottawas-winters-less-snowy-it-depends-on-how-you-look-at-it/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">posted on his blog</a> that it looked to him like snow depths had not been decreasing over the past century.</p>
<p>I scratched my head and asked Environment Canada directly. This is what they said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hello Charles,</p>
<p>Thank you for sending your message to Environment Canada. The information you&#8217;re looking for, whether there is more snow now than in the past, is not something that has already been calculated. However, you can easily check this yourself for the period 1920 to 2006. <a href="http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/monthlydata_e.html?timeframe=3&amp;Prov=ONT&amp;StationID=4333&amp;mlyRange=1889-01-01|2006-12-01&amp;Year=1920&amp;Month=01&amp;Day=01" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the link</a> to the 1920 data for Ottawa CDA.</p>
<p>Once on that page, look at the bottom of the &#8220;Total snow&#8221; column to see how much snow fell that year.  Then, click on &#8220;Next year&#8221; above or below the table to access the data for 1921 and so on.  It will take some work, but all the numbers are there for you to make a comparison.  If you feel ambitious, the data even goes back to 1890.</p>
<p>Yours truly,<br />
Bernard Duguay<br />
Meteorological Inquiry Specialist<br />
MSC National Inquiry Response Team ISO 9001:2008 Environment Canada</p></blockquote>
<p>So I did. And what do I see?</p>
<p>Click on the graph above to enlarge it. I know the old saying that there are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics. But it still looks to me like we&#8217;re getting less snow than in days of old.</p>
<p>But those early &#8217;70s sure look like great skiing!</p>
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