Comments on: Winter Trail Conditions – Muddy, Changeable https://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1040/winter-trail-conditions-–-muddy-changeable/ for people who love Gatineau Park Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:35:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Charles Hodgson https://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1040/winter-trail-conditions-–-muddy-changeable/comment-page-1/#comment-921 Charles Hodgson Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:11:34 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1040#comment-921 Actually I wasn't invited at first either. I heard about it through the grapevine and put in a request, which was enthusiastically accepted. When I got to the event Steve and Julie independently both apologized for my not getting the invite directly. My impression was that the list of invitees wasn't too well managed but that the desire was sincere. Actually I wasn’t invited at first either. I heard about it through the grapevine and put in a request, which was enthusiastically accepted. When I got to the event Steve and Julie independently both apologized for my not getting the invite directly. My impression was that the list of invitees wasn’t too well managed but that the desire was sincere.

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By: Ian Stewart https://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1040/winter-trail-conditions-–-muddy-changeable/comment-page-1/#comment-920 Ian Stewart Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:18:15 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1040#comment-920 Hi Charles, Both my brother and I didn't receive an invite. I figured that we would be on a list to contact because of our interest. Remember I was at a private meeting with them but maybe they knew what my feelings were and so didn't help to inform someone that might give them a hard time. I wonder if Jacques (who took the grooming case to the NCC ombudsman) got an invite. I don't think I am such an important person that I must be included. My point is that on issues where I haven't been critical of the NCC I am informed of happenings. An oversight perhaps? I base my experience of how the NCC deals with conflict. There has been enough noise about this issue that I believe they are being proactive about dealing with the compliants. Compliants not dealing with the issues that created the compliants. Defuse the situation quickly because they know that it takes longer the second time for people to get riled up. I've seen them do it to me time and again. Like Craig said just make them follow the contract. Yes I know last year was a low snow year but not so with 2007-2008. This was the highest snow year since 1972. If you remember there were huge ridges (12") on all the trails. I found out later it was because Demsis had fitted non-floating groomers to the cats which created the ridges. René Bellehumeur or her predecessor said no we won't enforce the contract to give them a chance. Great precedent and look where we are today with the same issue because of NCC inaction. Hi Charles, Both my brother and I didn’t receive an invite. I figured that we would be on a list to contact because of our interest. Remember I was at a private meeting with them but maybe they knew what my feelings were and so didn’t help to inform someone that might give them a hard time. I wonder if Jacques (who took the grooming case to the NCC ombudsman) got an invite.

I don’t think I am such an important person that I must be included. My point is that on issues where I haven’t been critical of the NCC I am informed of happenings. An oversight perhaps? I base my experience of how the NCC deals with conflict. There has been enough noise about this issue that I believe they are being proactive about dealing with the compliants. Compliants not dealing with the issues that created the compliants. Defuse the situation quickly because they know that it takes longer the second time for people to get riled up.

I’ve seen them do it to me time and again. Like Craig said just make them follow the contract. Yes I know last year was a low snow year but not so with 2007-2008. This was the highest snow year since 1972. If you remember there were huge ridges (12″) on all the trails. I found out later it was because Demsis had fitted non-floating groomers to the cats which created the ridges. René Bellehumeur or her predecessor said no we won’t enforce the contract to give them a chance. Great precedent and look where we are today with the same issue because of NCC inaction.

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By: Lynda https://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1040/winter-trail-conditions-–-muddy-changeable/comment-page-1/#comment-919 Lynda Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:24:12 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1040#comment-919 Thanks for the debrief,would you keep us informed via Tri Rudy? Updated communication on this will be a good start to the process. Thanks for the debrief,would you keep us informed via Tri Rudy? Updated communication on this will be a good start to the process.

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By: Craig https://guidegatineau.ca/blog/1040/winter-trail-conditions-–-muddy-changeable/comment-page-1/#comment-918 Craig Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:30:52 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1040#comment-918 Hmm. Not overly encouraging. I hope they spend some extra time fixing the problems and upholding the contract, rather than more time figuring out how to collect feedback. Hmm. Not overly encouraging. I hope they spend some extra time fixing the problems and upholding the contract, rather than more time figuring out how to collect feedback.

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