Comments for Gatineau Park News https://guidegatineau.ca/news News of the Gatineau Park Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:50:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on 5cm Snow by Jean-Paul Murray https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/26/5cm-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-1149 Jean-Paul Murray Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:50:02 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1131#comment-1149 Well, I think the fine are not for dogs, but for those who don't pick up their droppings. Well, I think the fine are not for dogs, but for those who don’t pick up their droppings.

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Comment on 5cm Snow by robert rinfret https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/26/5cm-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-1145 robert rinfret Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:19:16 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1131#comment-1145 Skiied from penguin. Went back country with the local unmarked trails SW of penguin. then back onto the parkway to pink lake and back. The back trail was wonderful just a few hiker tracks (with thier dogs) What would JP Murray say about the local dog walkers where the signs clearly say min $100 fine for dogs in there? Skiied from penguin. Went back country with the local unmarked trails SW of penguin. then back onto the parkway to pink lake and back.
The back trail was wonderful just a few hiker tracks (with thier dogs)
What would JP Murray say about the local dog walkers where the signs clearly say min $100 fine for dogs in there?

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Comment on Historic Tee Shirt by OutdoorOttawa | Blog | T-Shirt to Support Historic Trail Names On The Way https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/23/historic-tee-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-1126 OutdoorOttawa | Blog | T-Shirt to Support Historic Trail Names On The Way Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:14:17 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1104#comment-1126 [...] [via] and [via] [...] [...] [via] and [via] [...]

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Comment on Historic Tee Shirt by David Brigstocke https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/23/historic-tee-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-1122 David Brigstocke Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:06:16 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1104#comment-1122 I think that I got my t-shirt like this at Trailhead, but years ago. Maybe the movement to re-instate the names will prompt Trailhead to re-issue the design; maybe they already have? I think that I got my t-shirt like this at Trailhead, but years ago. Maybe the movement to re-instate the names will prompt Trailhead to re-issue the design; maybe they already have?

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Comment on Historic Tee Shirt by Carsten https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/23/historic-tee-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-1121 Carsten Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:44:52 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1104#comment-1121 ...coming soon to a store near me?,,, …coming soon to a store near me?,,,

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Comment on Petition to Revive Old Ski Trail Names by Charles Hodgson https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/18/petition-to-revive-old-ski-trail-names/comment-page-1/#comment-1118 Charles Hodgson Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:55:53 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1101#comment-1118 When I reproduced the 1967 trail map it took weeks and I had time to think. Therefore all the new text added we added in both French and English. When I posted the online petition it took seconds and I didn't take the time to think (as I should have) that it would be oh-so-much better if posted in both languages. Hence I am now working on a French version and will add it as soon as I am able. Mea culpa When I reproduced the 1967 trail map it took weeks and I had time to think. Therefore all the new text added we added in both French and English.

When I posted the online petition it took seconds and I didn’t take the time to think (as I should have) that it would be oh-so-much better if posted in both languages.

Hence I am now working on a French version and will add it as soon as I am able.

Mea culpa

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Comment on Petition to Revive Old Ski Trail Names by LINDA LANDRY https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/18/petition-to-revive-old-ski-trail-names/comment-page-1/#comment-1117 LINDA LANDRY Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:45:29 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1101#comment-1117 Dear NCC Board Members, The old trail names are a part of the National Capital history that has been removed for the efficiency of using numbers. Shameful... this would be equivalant to changing the name of our beloved "Old Chelsea" to become NCC's "Gateway to the Gatineau Park". Those of us who live in Chelsea recognize that co-existing with the NCC is like living next door to a neighbour who's a bully and prefers to live extravagantly. The fact is that remembering the "name of a trail" is easier than remembering a number, for example: is it 33 or 34? For those of us who have to deal with the 1.6 million visitors to the Gatineau Park and deal with the aftermath and responsibilities of all the vehicle traffic, pollution, noise and speedsters; changing the trail number identification system back to the old trail names would be a refreshing change in cooperation from our neighbour the NCC! Dear NCC Board Members,
The old trail names are a part of the National Capital history that has been removed for the efficiency of using numbers. Shameful… this would be equivalant to changing the name of our beloved “Old Chelsea” to become NCC’s “Gateway to the Gatineau Park”. Those of us who live in Chelsea recognize that co-existing with the NCC is like living next door to a neighbour who’s a bully and prefers to live extravagantly.

The fact is that remembering the “name of a trail” is easier than remembering a number, for example: is it 33 or 34? For those of us who have to deal with the 1.6 million visitors to the Gatineau Park and deal with the aftermath and responsibilities of all the vehicle traffic, pollution, noise and speedsters; changing the trail number identification system back to the old trail names would be a refreshing change in cooperation from our neighbour the NCC!

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Comment on Petition to Revive Old Ski Trail Names by Rob Taylor https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/18/petition-to-revive-old-ski-trail-names/comment-page-1/#comment-1104 Rob Taylor Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:34:52 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1101#comment-1104 Sure, I grew up with them in the 50s/60s and used to love all the stories from my father and his friends about building the trails in the old days. Just the thought of the Big Dipper or Kicking Horse makes me quiver with fear. Somehow, numbers don't have the same romance Sure, I grew up with them in the 50s/60s and used to love all the stories from my father and his friends about building the trails in the old days. Just the thought of the Big Dipper or Kicking Horse makes me quiver with fear. Somehow, numbers don’t have the same romance

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Comment on Trail Names Revival Campaign by OutdoorOttawa | Blog | Support the Gatineau Park Trail Names Revival Campaign https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/18/trail-names-revival-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-1098 OutdoorOttawa | Blog | Support the Gatineau Park Trail Names Revival Campaign Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:20:56 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1097#comment-1098 [...] over to GuideGatineau and leave a comment in support of Charles’s efforts, and buy a T-shirt when they’re [...] [...] over to GuideGatineau and leave a comment in support of Charles’s efforts, and buy a T-shirt when they’re [...]

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Comment on Unofficial Trails Issue by David Brigstocke https://guidegatineau.ca/news/2010/11/10/unofficial-trails-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1097 David Brigstocke Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:47:01 +0000 https://guidegatineau.ca/news/?p=1087#comment-1097 I was really happy to see the thoughtful comments left by Art Campbell. I don't agree with all of them, but that disagreement fits in with some of my thoughts last Sunday morning (somewhere up around Lac des Épinettes): that there was a need to introduce a discussion of unofficial trail etiquette to this thread of posts. Walking with my son a week ago in the Home Cliffs area, we found, on our return, that a section of trail had been flagged during the day with many bright streamers. He was adamant that they were a blight on the landscape and while I agreed with this impression, because I didn't know why the flags had been placed there, I didn't feel that it was our perogative to remove them. On a solo hike Sunday, our discussion about the flags got me thinking: the unofficial trails are not unmanaged, rather they are informally managed. To a large extent the informal management works very well; the yellow-blazed trails between the Fire Tower and the Eardley-Masham Road were cleared of deadfall after the ice storm more quickly than the official trails. However it is performed by a range of people who obviously have quite different visions for what the unofficial trails should be like, how they should be marked, how they should be cleared of deadfall. On one extreme, we have those who apparently like to be able to see two or three blazes ahead, and on the other, those who would like the unofficial trails to be invisible (hence no markings and no worn treadway). If the informal management of the unofficial trails is to be successful, both finding some compromise between the disparate users and avoiding running afoul (too much) of the NCC, it will need to be co-operative, and based on some established etiquette. Establishing that etiquette, one that strikes a balance between the visions of various users and pays attention to what will least raise the ire of the NCC, might be something we can discuss here. I was really happy to see the thoughtful comments left by Art Campbell. I don’t agree with all of them, but that disagreement fits in with some of my thoughts last Sunday morning (somewhere up around Lac des Épinettes): that there was a need to introduce a discussion of unofficial trail etiquette to this thread of posts.

Walking with my son a week ago in the Home Cliffs area, we found, on our return, that a section of trail had been flagged during the day with many bright streamers. He was adamant that they were a blight on the landscape and while I agreed with this impression, because I didn’t know why the flags had been placed there, I didn’t feel that it was our perogative to remove them. On a solo hike Sunday, our discussion about the flags got me thinking: the unofficial trails are not unmanaged, rather they are informally managed. To a large extent the informal management works very well; the yellow-blazed trails between the Fire Tower and the Eardley-Masham Road were cleared of deadfall after the ice storm more quickly than the official trails. However it is performed by a range of people who obviously have quite different visions for what the unofficial trails should be like, how they should be marked, how they should be cleared of deadfall.

On one extreme, we have those who apparently like to be able to see two or three blazes ahead, and on the other, those who would like the unofficial trails to be invisible (hence no markings and no worn treadway). If the informal management of the unofficial trails is to be successful, both finding some compromise between the disparate users and avoiding running afoul (too much) of the NCC, it will need to be co-operative, and based on some established etiquette.

Establishing that etiquette, one that strikes a balance between the visions of various users and pays attention to what will least raise the ire of the NCC, might be something we can discuss here.

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